

Halloween 2003 is only days
away and our "Behind the Screams" interview this time
is with two of the most infamous actors in Chicago. Call them
Haunted contractors, actors-for-hire, or whatever you’d
like to, but these are two of the most feared haunted house actors
in the area. Performing at several haunted houses each season,
they are sure to find you – wherever you go. We are very
excited to be talking with “Spike Mike” and the “Maze
Master." (SM and MM) Spike Mike is most infamous for his
spiked jumpsuit and his chainsaw, which he uses to send his victims
running. Maze Master is most infamous for his long black trench
coat and his 2x4, which he uses to pound his name into your memory.
Ladies and gentlemen, we proudly present Behind the Screams with
Spike Mike and the Maze Master.
HHC:
How did you guys start? What was the first time when you said, “OK,
I want to be in the Halloween industry?”
MM:
I’ve been doing stupid yard haunt things since I was 19
[laughs]. It started out with a hanging body on my house and
me
in a coffin. I would just kind of pop out and scare the crap
out of the kids.
HHC:
[laughs] “Stupid yard haunt things”. Sounds like
a slam against Mike and Haunting at 332…
MM:
No,no, when I say stupid yard haunt, I mean literally a stupid
yard haunt. Mike’s would be considered and upper class
modern yard haunt mine was a stupid yard haunt. No slam to Mikey.
I was
out there last year and it was a good time.
SM:
I started out when I was 10 years old going to the haunted houses
with my mom and I’d come home wanting to build tombstones
and props. So, I started out with 3 tombstones and then the next
year I’d have13 tombstones and a dead body. Then the next
year I’d have 3 dead bodies and 20 tombstones and it just
escalated from there. Now it’s up to 30 bodies, I think
we have 20 animated pieces now, tons of different scenes and
the
thousands of different people that come to see it every year.
Then I started acting. The first house I acted at was probably
Elk Grove or something small around the suburbs. I acted in Tunnel
of Terror my freshman year, it was an old nursery haunt. After
that Silo X (in Wheaton), Scream Fest (in Villa Park), The Asylum
(in Berwyn), 11th Hour, and now Dream Reapers in Melrose Park.
HHC:
So, how many total haunts over the years?
SM:
6 or 7 total.
MM:
I got 5. But, I did a haunt at a Sunday school – haunted
house when I was 11. But, I could have never done all those if
it weren’t for Rick, John, and the guys at Dream Reapers.
They always painted my face and got me ready to go.
HHC:
How did you get involved with the Sunday school?
MM:
Ok, we’re talking cheesy. Like, “here stick your hand
in this bucket of spaghetti it’s brains” cheesy.
They just asked me to volunteer so I did it. I was not as intense
as
I am today.
HHC:
When did the intensity start?
MM:
11th hour
HHC:
How did you discover the maze master character?
MM: The 11th Hour
house started, which was what, 4 years ago? Which is basically,
for the people who don’t know, pretty much everyone behind
Dream Reapers was 11th hour, short of Jim Upchurch. When the split
came, Jim went and the dream reapers stayed and became who they
are. There was a maze in there. I wouldn’t really call
it a maze. I would call it a split hallway with 3 different directions.
I went in there on an off day. They had a sign on the door for
volunteers. They took my info and nobody called me back - for
two months.
HHC:
This was at Dream Reapers?
MM:
This was at 11th Hour. I finally went back up there again and
asked what was going on. They were in crunch time. I went in
and
did some of the building. It was just a little glow in the dark
thing, no major deal. But, I moved into the maze because it wasn’t
working. During an off day I added some walls, threw in some
strobe
lights, started harassing people, started making them tell jokes,
sing to get out, and basically making them wet their pants to
get out. That was pretty much it. And it just escalated from
there.
HHC:
Has there ever been a point in your life where you’ve
thought about giving it up?
MM:
[laughs] Around the last week of every Halloween. I look around
me and go “I don’t have time for all of this”.
But you find the time, you know? People throw tens of thousands
of lights out at Christmas. My Christmas is the month of October.
SM:
I’d agree with that
MM:
That’s a present to myself. Oh, no offense to Christmas.
I am not anti-religious. It has nothing to do with my upside down
cross. (Part of the Maze Master’s face make-up)
HHC:
Going back to the beginning. You guys have very developed characters.
What was your first costume? Now I’m not talking about the
“Scream” costume or the first time your mom dressed
you up. What was the first costume that you picked?
MM:
The only one I can remember, far back, besides obviously the old
mom dressing me as a clown, when I was like 3. She made me an
outfit one year, I was a crusader. So, I had a shield and a sword.
It was kinda cool. Cool enough that I wore it two years in a row.
I liked it.
SM:
I remember I was a knight, then one year is was a punk and another
year I was a skeleton. I never wanted to be anything cutesy.
HHC:
First haunted house character before Maze Master and Spike Mike?
MM:
When I started at 11th hour, I did the glow in the dark thing.
Basically, I set up a strobe light. Because a strobe light will
throw off your vision. And immediately after you exited the hallway
from staring more or less at this strobe light, you came into
a black-lit area in the warehouse scene. I had painted a couple
of arrows directing people in. I had masks hanging all over the
door. Well, I was in a black robe, one of the masks was me, with
the white gloves. You know, one out of every 3 people you could
nail, for the most part. After that, I got asked to move into
the hallway to see if I could make it work. Actually, I had just
relieved someone on break when they came back I just said go
somewhere
else because I didn’t want to go. The next night, I came
in wearing my leather trench coat and was dressed all in black.
From there, it kinda just worked its way up. But, I didn’t
get my 2 x 4 for 2 more weeks…
HHC:
Was it an award or did you inherit it?
MM:
No, actually I had found a small block of wood that someone had
left lying around one off of the columns in the haunted house.
So, I picked it up. While I was sitting there passing time waiting
for another group because it was slow, I started smacking it across
the wall and was amazed at the acoustics that a 1-foot block could
make. So, I moved up to a 3-foot piece the next day and the legend
was born.
HHC:
What age were you?
MM:
34. I had a time span in my life when I was too busy goofing
off with my friends, wrecking cars, and in the military to give
Halloween
the time it’s due.
HHC:
Demo derby huh <looking at Mike>?
MM:
Oh yeah, I had my share of demo derbies.
HHC: What about
Spike Mike? How did Spike Mike or Mike the Halloween Man come
about?
SM:
After the Tunnel of Terror, the first job where I really got
paid
was at Silo X. My buddy and I were thrilled! The guy in charge
of the actors called us back and asked us if we wanted to work¼
we were freaking out! We went in there and started out with camo
pants and a bloody white t-shirt, because there they made you
wear all camo because it was all war themed. I don’t remember
when I got the jumpsuit¼ I think I started wearing the
jumpsuit my first year at Scream Fest. When I worked there the
one night, and I was a radioactive zombie. Then, the year after
that I started wearing my own jumpsuit and then I added the spikes
and then the chains. I started out with the plain black face
with
blood around the eyes and then when I started at Dream Reapers
I added the white base makeup and went from there. Then, Scott
came up with the name Spike Mike at Dream Reapers when he saw
my spikes.
MM:
Well, there were too many Mike’s. There were like 3 Mike’s
there. So they’re talking to me and they’re like “Mike
who?” and I go “Mike in the blue jumpsuit” and
they go “with the spikes?” and I’m like “Yeaaaa
Spike Mike”.
SM:
And a legend was born. That’s where Spike Mike came from.
MM:
Ok, I gotta tell you how we met, though. I’m very adamant
about people blowing my scares in the maze. So, there are three
or four passer-throughs through my maze where people come through
to get to the break room and get back to their areas. People were
wandering through constantly. By the third night of the first
year of Dream Reapers, I had had it. Mostly it was little kids.
But, every now and then, it was an adult. And I’d tell them
there’s back ways. “You don’t see me, you don’t
bother me,” was my thinking. My scare is right in the front.
Well, I was having one of my pissy nights where 3 or 4 little
kids would come through and here comes Mike walking right in.
I’m like “Where the hell are you going?” Mike’s
like “I’m going to my area”. I said, “Uh,
walk around!” He and I were kinda eye-to-eye and face-to-face.
SM:
Yeah, what a jerk. [laughs]
MM:
Yeah, that’s pretty much what I was saying. What a jerk!
We didn’t really talk much after that. It was real monotone
and we just started talking.
HHC:
The Maze Master’s key item is the 2x4. Mike, when did
you start playing the saws (chainsaws)?
SM:
Well, when I started at Silo X, they were always playing with
the saws and I was always bugging them to play but they had guys
that were on top of that. So instead, I banged hoses and bones
against the walls. Then, I started with my own chainsaw at my
yard haunt. I took one of my dad’s chainsaws and took the
chain off. He then got mad at me because it was 10 o’clock
at night and I was chasing people down the street with the saw.
He was worried that they were going to trip and fall and split
their head open and that we’d get sued, so the saw skipped
a year. And then last year, I got my hands on a few Craftsmans,
so I turned all of those into my toys.
HHC:
How many 2x4’s are you on?
MM:
Honesty, I have the original “Maze Master” sitting
upstairs. Yeah - 4 years running. Every year, I have to wear thicker
gloves because I’m getting more and more splinters. The
board is taking a beating. But, 4 years and no problems. I’ve
gone through 3 other boards but I always go back to the original
because it hasn’t let me down. Every year I redo the ink
on the board. But, my hands are taking more of a toll than that
board is.
HHC:
Yeah, you guys put your bodies and your hands through hell every
night and you wake up the next morning and go to work and do the
whole thing over again.
SM:
I remember when I used to beat on the walls with my hands and
I ripped holes in my hand from all the nails sticking out. That’s
when I started using the hoses and the bone.
MM:
They’re safer.
SM:
I’d come home and my hands would be sore and bruised.
MM:
And you’d do it again.
SM:
Of course I’d do it again.
MM:
No limits, no laws.
HHC:
You guys are about the most passionate people I’ve met.
You keep going back and hammering away at it. You keep improving
yourself and your scare tactics. Where do you get inspiration?
Where’s the fuel for it all?
MM:
Unchanneled rage baby! I’ll tell ya something, between my
hockey games that I go to (I don’t play in) and the month
of October. That is 100% stress relief for me. I leave there.
I come home. “Hi honey, how ya doin?” Everything’s
peachy. Everything is right with the world. No problems. Why?
Because, I just scared the shit out of 60 people, made 3 wet their
pants, 2 passed out, 1 had to throw up and run away and I beat
holes in 3 walls. Everything’s great! No problems!
HHC:
[Laughs]
SM:
Yeah, I’m usually a calm, laid back guy except when haunted
house season.
MM:
He’s almost comatose in normal life. You’d swear he
was on drugs but he won’t touch the shit. He doesn’t
drink. He don’t do any drugs and you’d swear this
kid is stoned because he walks around sooo mellow then you get
him in a haunted house and you’re like “what are
you on?”
SM:
I’d have to say scaring those people is definitely stress
relief.
HHC:
Worst scare you’ve every done? Nothing to brag about, we
know you don’t want to hurt anybody, but for a haunter...
MM:
The worst thing I remember was in the first year of Dream Reapers.
I had somebody come into the maze entrance and I came out and
slammed that board. They literally turned around and ran 2 feet
smashed right into a wall. They went straight back. And I’m
like, “Are you ok?” They were in between crying and
laughing because the friends were just horrendous on this guy.
And it wasn’t a woman, it was a man. He had to be in his
mid-20’s and wasn’t a kid. And I don’t think
he was doped up or drunk or anything because those people don’t
get scared. We have our share of those people. You try to ship
those people out as quickly as possible. Because if they don’t
want to be there for my portion of entertainment, I’m not
gonna waste my show on them. But this guy was stone sober. He
didn’t even know it was there, he just turned around and
‘blam!” I gave the guy a t-shirt because I felt bad.
It was hysterical. I thought he was hurt but he was too busy laughing.
I’m sure he was sore the next day. I’d say that was
the worst one I have. As far as almost injury causing.
Oh and the rumors that float around the internet
about me hitting people with my 2x4 are absolutely false. I’ve
had one close call. ONE close call.
HHC:
How close?
MM:
Uh, I banged the board up. I try to bang it up a foot above their
head. I banged the board up, I lost my grip and it slipped down
and fell on their toe. Their toe, people! That lady got a free
t-shirt. She was not mad at me. She asked me if I was ok. She
thought I had fallen. None of the blood on the board is real except
my own.
SM:
Best scare was at Dream Reapers last year. Ken and I were walking
back and forth in the middle of the parking lot when I hit the
saw and I see this guy getting freaked out, so I look at Ken
and
we both come around with the saws and this guy runs around, goes
a little bit across the parking lot and then comes back. So,
I
hit the saw again and the guy takes off across the lot, so I
think maybe I’ll leave him alone¼ I don’t know what
he’s scared about. He ends up coming back, so we hit the
saws and Ken and I come in and he flies into the corner of the
building and he was up against the window like he was about to
shit his pants. This guy was terrified¼ you could see the
terror in his eyes. Then, he shot off between us as fast as he
could and we watched him go across the parking lot, over the curb
and hit the cement. He barrel rolled and skidded 10 feet across
the lot on his back. His shoe fell off, but he still kept running.
Ken and I looked at each other and I thought maybe this kid’s
grandma got chainsaw massacred or something. He was scared for
his life. So, Ken goes up to him in the line and gives him a white
Dream Reaper’s t-shirt to make amends. Ken comes back to
me and says, “Now he’s a marked man,” because
the white t-shirt sticks out in the house like a sore thumb. When
he came out of the house, we went after him again, this time with
the electric chain saw and he was even scared of that. He took
off across the lot and almost flew into Mannheim Road. That kid
was so scared. I’ll never forget that.
MM:
Oww!
HHC:
If you could have super power in the world what would it be?
SM:
Maybe walk through walls.
MM:
Dude, Stop it!!
SM:
No, I think I’d be invisible.
MM:
Honestly I’d like the power of flight. I really would.
Screw levitation. If I could levitate and move, think of the
people
I could terrorize. That would bring a whole new level of scare
tactics.
HHC:
What is in your DVD and CD player right now?
MM:
Dude, if I told you it would blow your mind. Seriously. DVD player:
Boondock Saints. CD player: REO Speedwagon. Anything REO is great.
SM:
I just bought them yesterday, Spineshank and Chimaira. I have
a bunch of metal, it never stays the same it’s always different.
House of 1000 corpses in the DVD player.
HHC:
Now it’s time for the HHC Fatal 5. Favorite Halloween
costume?
SM:
Jumpsuit
MM:
Leather trench coat and black clothes
HHC:
Favorite Horror Movie, all time?
SM:
Night of the Living Dead
MM:
Dawn of the Dead
HHC:
Favorite Horror Villain?
SM:
Michael Meyers
MM:
Dude, you did it again! I mean Michael Meyers has always been
my favorite too because he’s the most believable.
HHC:
Favorite musicians?
SM:
Ultimate favorite is Pantera.
MM:
What are we clones here? Pantera and REO Speedwagon. I go from
one extreme to the other.
HHC:
Favorite Haunted House as an audience member?
SM:
House of Shock. I’ve never seen it in person but I think
it’s one I would like. And even though it wasn’t
scary in-your-face-horror-gore, the Asylum was a good one.
MM:
For me, the Asylum. I mean it wasn’t really a haunted house
as it was a haunted attraction. Their timing and everything was
perfect. I got to go through there one time before they shut
it
down and it was just amazing.
HHC:
What would you like to say to everyone who wants to get involved
in the haunted house industry?
SM:
Build it don’t buy it. You feel like it’s more your
own then.
MM:
YEA exactly! Start out small. Start out with your own yard. You’ll
get to see a little bit of the sweat equity. Start out small.
HHC:
What would you like to say to your fans that fear your characters?
MM:
I’ll be floating again this year. It doesn’t matter
what house you come to. I will find YOU!
SM:
I’m gonna get you with my saw. FEAR THE SAW !!!!
HHC:
Thank you for your time, guys. We look forward to seeing what
you have in store for us this year!
Spike Mike and the
Maze Master can be primarily found at Dream Reapers Haunted
House in their
final year at their location in Melrose Park. Originally
posted
on Haunted House Chicago during October 2003.